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Surely this podcast will be life changing for many, having a power rising above syllables and sounds, calling forth those messengers, those tears you suggested we attend to when we hear our hearts respond, "Okay, what are you asking me to do?" Being in a remote town in the US northwest, I must let yet another Realisation Festival pass me by. But I will be working my heart out in the dining car.

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Great comment Dawn. I'm also in the US northwest (Bellingham, WA); and after reading Jonathan's recent post on Taking Improvisation Seriously/An Omniscient God Cannot Laugh, I had a thought about organizing something along the lines of a Realization Festival next year in our neck of the woods.

https://jonathanrowson.substack.com/p/an-omniscient-god-cannot-laugh

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Wow, David. What a beautiful idea! I am in Wenatchee. Perhaps the soil in our lovely corner of the world could sprout that seed. I have many commitments for the remainder of this year, so next year sounds possible. I am interested in exploring the possibilities. I will message you.

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Jun 27Liked by Jonathan Rowson

I really found your conversation with Nate great and I definitely feel I've found one of the others as I'm an avid chess player and naturalist/ generalist thinker. I really resonated with your response to Nate's question about the "queens gambit" as far as a silver bullet to the Meta crisis. Your answer was great!

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The "expert generalists" are the interstitium of our culture. Someone just pointed me to this article by Jennifer Brandel:

"Which makes me wonder, how can we activate and apply this new word, interstitium, to harness its meaning and power beyond biology? What will it take to find ways of seeing, languaging and remunerating interstitionary work, so our systems have a chance at correcting and finding balance? No one sector, industry or organization will be able to solve the wicked problems we face in challenges like climate or poverty or corruption. So my last questions are, when can we start, and are you in?"

https://orionmagazine.org/article/interstitium-scientific-discovery-anatomy/

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I was on the train this weekend would have enjoyed a longer conversation with you.

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I've been following nate for years, I love to hear the great thinkers. Not sure when I found your substack but it was a while ago. I love what you do. I am gradually finding my way to the dining car here on substack.

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I like trains, but the bubble car is now the pubic virus on the beast, not the arteries of efficiency that was the most energy efficient transport on the planet.

I’d prefer the runaway train of discussions, not road rage and racing, where the pedestrian is a status nuisance, a dumb meandering thing, a burden to the carriages of justice attempting to decipher algorithm value by sensor, baby or elder, which is the split second target.

Just what have we become with cars above human life, big cars don’t cry.

The road goes over nature and the chicken, not the why of a bird, older than mankind itself and its language of a named creature.

Livable communities? No communing, no community, individualism needs the power turned off, just like when it snows, silence of the machinery that we thought natural and not our demise as it finishes the oxygen before we can switch it off.

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I've been waiting for this one, and I was not disappointed! A great conversation between two of my favorite thinkers.

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