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Jaime's avatar

This is brilliant - both the H1 Gossip and H2- vortex really resonate. I see this playing out in housing crisis dialogues that repeat the same notions again and again, whilst ‘vortexing’ any actually generative ideas, or even allowing space for these ideas to be explored. A great example recently on a panel of 5 politicians and 1 economist, with the host dismissing valid arguments so as to spend more time in the gossip (Q&A Australia). Similarly I agree re. Greenwashing and Green growth!

What interests me about this is that it frames H1 as having its own sort of gravitational pull to the existing gossip, and H2 as directional (minus pulls back to H1).

Does this imply that H2+ pull us towards H3, and is H3 simply a different flavour of gossip with its own gravitational pull? Because I feel this dynamic is also true - often Doughnut economics, and other paradigmatic shifts (I’m in Australia, and there are a lot of amazing dialogue focussed groups working around doughnut economics, and reframing eco-centric and indigenous work) whereby there are a small group of individuals effectively gossiping over creating the new H3 “over here” and what often feels missed is the H2 component of the transformation that has legs (I.e. sounds really great, but it’s missing the in-between transformation and velocity of the H2+ vortex).

Could there be a way to harness that directional vortex somehow, so that the H3 Gossip is also useful, and not just, gossip.

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Joy Green's avatar

This is interesting and I think the ‘gossip’ idea is helpful, but I think the problem goes deeper than this. H1 is theoretically supposed to be fit-ish for the present, but our current socio-political H1 has been screamingly unfit for the *present* since 2016, never mind the future, with no signs of imminent change at all. As a futurist I spend a lot of time now helping people notice that they are trapped in ‘zombie tacit futures’, basically assumptions and expectations about the world that were fit for 2015’s H1… but now are not even that, they are H0, sometimes even H-1 (if that’s not too confusing!)

Frankly the whole mainstream is in this state, trapped in a strange spiritual Groundhog Day, and even when people do notice it they try to reach backwards for ‘new’ ideas. Companies everywhere are still completely trapped in ideas of incremental change, still transfixed by the illusion of growth even though we sit in its rotting carcass now and the spirit of the scavenger is very strong now, pervading AI especially. We are not even in H1. We have not even come to terms with the present. I am thinking of changing my professional title to ‘present-ist’

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