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Jun 3Edited

Dear Jonathan,

Thank you for this beautiful and provoking piece, that was one of the highlights of today. It just came after a 'how are you?' opened up a whole conversation with a colleague. I wonder if it is not the quality of the attention, as much as the question itself, that brings forth a meaningful exchange.

David Whyte has become a perennial reference in so many of my conversations. In his recent podcatst with Joe Monk from Coaches Rising, https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/coaches-rising/id1144203613?i=1000659495629&r=202 he shared that “surprise is one of the great diagnostics of real conversation. When you lose surprise, you lose the essence of the conversation. And that's one of the great difficulties in long-term relationship, romantic or collegiate is losing the element of surprise. You're under the illusion that the other person can't surprise you and they're under the illusion that they can't surprise themselves. And it's because we've lost this edge. And to my mind, the surprise occurs out of this disappearance, out of treating conversation as an art form and out of the loss of silence as an arbiter of the increasing depth of the exchange. So it's very hard to have surprise in your conversational abilities or your conversational affect or your conversational invitation, unless you have a relationship with silence. Because it's in that silence that your attentive powers will spontaneously alight on the next stepping stone across the river you're trying to cross or the next level in the depth to which you're wishing to go if you want to change the metaphor.”

Your work and his have been most inspiring and suprising. With sincere appreciation

Jonas

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Khalid Mir's avatar

Very interesting post Jonathan!

I've noticed interesting cultural differences. In England the typical responses to "how are you?" were, "not bad" or "yeah, okay, I guess" or "can't complain". In America I often heard, "I'm good". Here in the land of the pure it's usually "shukar alhumdulillah" ("well, praise God).

Does anyone still ask, "where are you from?" Do you think the question changes depending on the gender of the two people?

Not sure about the world question. If a white person asked me that I'd think they were half mad.

Best thing? A tie between having a zinger burger and reading parts of a brill. book, Formation of the Self.

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